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republicans must do more than simply avoid the fiscal cliff to get america pause economy growing again. >> there is still the degree of uncertainty. investors, entrepreneurs households, are not making decisions because they do not know what tomorrow will be. >> but washington's top republican leader, house speaker john boehner, complains there has been no progress in avoiding even immediate crisis. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff disrupting our economy and threaten jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> democrats shona signs of backing off from supporting the president's hard-line stance on raising the income tax rate on the rich. >> we realize there have to be two sets to the bargain, but we are not going to go back to what we did in 2011 putting both revenues and cuts on the table. >> despite the impasse in washington promising signs the economy might be improving -- more job creation, improvement in the housing sector, and a decrease in household debt. solution -- spending cuts combined with an increase in tax revenue. >> talks about the fiscal cliff and the meeting
do more than avoid the fiscal cliff to get america's economy growing again. >> there is still the degree of uncertainty that prevents investors from making decisions. >> reporter: but washington's top republican leader speaker of the house john boehner explains there has been no progress. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening the economy and the jobs the white house wasted another week. >> reporter: democrats show no signs of backing off from sporting the president on raising the income tax on the rich. >> there has to be two sides to the bargain but we are not going to go back to 2011, put revenues and cuts on the table. >> reporter: but despite the impasse in washington, he sees signs the economy is improving. for the fiscal cliff she represent as balanced solution. spending cuts and a increase in taxes. kron 4 news. >>> we have clear skies out there across the bay area on this sunday evening after a spectacular weekend. it was cool on saturday. it was foggy but today just an "a" plus day. sunshine. temperatures in the 60s and 70s. and even right now, san
simply avoid the fiscal cliff to get america's economy growing again. >> still have up certain that -- uncertainty that fuels doubts, stops people from making decision. >> bud washington's top leader, house speaker john boehner, says there has been little progress. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> democrats show no signs of backing off from supporting the president's hard-line stance on raising the incomes tax rate for the rich. >> we democrats realize there have to about two sides to the bargain, but in 2011 we put both revenues and cuts on the table. >> but one republican senator revealed this week that tax increases might help solve america's debt crisis. so far the g.o.p. has stood imeps raising taxes. >> what we ought to be working on is the other 93%, because if you want to do what he wants on tax rates, you affect% of the deficit. we have spent ourselves into a hole and we're not going to raise taxes and borrow money and get out of it. so, will i accept a tax increase as a part
after they leave the theaters. the fiscal cliff and jobs numbers and state of the economy. who better to talk about all of that than robert reich, former secretary of labor in the clinton administration and current economics professor at the university of california at berkeley. good to see you. thanks so much for joining us. >> how are you? >> let's talk about these numbers on friday, the surprisingly strong jobs numbers. 146,000 new jobs created. the unemployment rate dropping to 7.7%. we were expecting some impact from the super storm sandy in earlier thanksgiving. what do the numbers say about the economy? >> apparently we are still struggling. these are not hugely wonderful numbers but undoubtedly we're moving in the right direction. the early thanksgiving may have canceled out negative effects of sandy. sandy really did not have much of an effect in november. >> interesting -- do you think we'll see revisions next month? >> we probably will. every month we're seeing revisions and so far they have been downward. the revisions we saw friday for october and september, were both dow
the fiscal cliff standoff is hitting the economy. the add pressure on washington to reach >>> live look from our vollmer peak cam east bay hills bay bridge there, you can see how chilly it is in spots and you don't see fog. both those conditions are out there. mike will update you on that in a few minutes. >>> in an hour the labor department will release november jobs report analysts the unemployment rate to remain at 7.9%. economists blame everything from sandy to worries over the fiscal i cliff. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff is still three weeks ago the economy may have already taken a hit economists predict the jobs report will show employers added fewer than 100,000 workers in november. superstorm sandy may be part of the reason, worry over the fiscal cliff may have also had an impact. some estimate at least 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year, due to urn certainty about the fiscal cliff. -- >> reporter: >> the president: it is important we get this done now. >> reporter: in washington republicans and democrats are talking, no breakthrough locked in a stalemate. president obam
should be done that should cost us more jobs. can you fix the fiscal cliff and send the economy downward. >> the fiscal cliff, isn't it having real impact in the economy now? >> it's having real impact and name pact will growth longer we take to come to a deal, some deal, any deal. what everybody wants, individuals who are going to be paid in january, they don't know how much and businesses, so what's the deal? what are -- what do we have to plan on? >> the best down payment would be to continue tax rates at the middle class for the rates they are, the best down payment. that's the best easy first step and i hope congress will realize take a step and take it now and give the president something he can sign. >> that has to be the last word. thanks, guys. >>> from the downward slope of the cliff to the upward climb on jobs, a big surprise in the november jobs numbers. it's a step in the right direction, but ali velshi will join me with a look at why we need to do much more. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, a
, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's chief economist, and deutsche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&p500 posting gains in december, 82% of the time since 1990. it's that 18% that should trouble folks, but are concerns with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less than optimistic? joining me is john, and carl, senior economist for deutsche bank. gentlemen, thank you for being here. start with the treasury secretary. the man in charge of our treasury is out telling everyone that the administration he works for is a part of is perfectly prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it's worthwhile to go over the cliff, it's not th
. there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. 8 days ago, secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts and an infinite increase in the death lemmas like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal. since then, there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president thought the tax rate hikes he wanted, we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. the president does not agree with our proposal. i believe he has an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, and plan that can pass both chambers of the c
for 20% of the global economy so no surprise the world the watching that fiscal cliff. as head of the international monetary fund, christine lagarde says u.s. leaders need to reach a deal and soon before that uncertainty damages the global economy. i spoke with her earlier. let me start out because we have new unemployment figures this week which shows that unemployment has dropped to 7.7, lowest in four years, new jobs numbers, 176,000 new jobs created. translate for me into what it means for the u.s. economy. describe the u.s. economy through those figures. >> u.s. economy is creating jobs. right? which means that it's doing a bit better and some people have decided that they were going to open new positions, which is a sign of trust in the economy. in addition to that, you have got a housing sector, which has begun to pick up, at least it's bottoming out now. you've got households that have reduced their debt in general, so you have quite a few signs that the situation is beginning to improve from, you know, five years of crisis, essentially. yet not all numbers are good. if
think is the biggest threat from the outside to the u.s. economy? >> the fiscal cliff. first of all i think there are issues that are beginning to improve and, you know, whether you look at the euro zone which is making progress, gradually, laboriously and certainly improving and with good numbers because if you look at thinge ia because if you look at thinge a greg gat euro zone debt, and you have political stability back now that the new team is in place so the volatility and the instability factors that are outside have reduced. the real threat that we have at the moment is really here with us and that can be addressed. >> but when you look at, i mean i understood that the european banks had sort of downsized or downgraded what they thought would be growth. you've got more than 11% unemployment in the euro zone, which is a good deal higher than here. >> yeah yeah. >> are those things threats to the u.s. economy or do you think the u.s. economy now is destabilizing or has the potential to destabilize the world economy? >> i think the u.s. economy, because it's a relatively closed e
the waiting game to see if country and the president take the economy off the fiscal cliff, president obama says he will not play the debt ceiling game again. but he is taking a few more shots in the public relations game. turning the screws on republicans, a little bit more. chief white house correspondent ed henry starts us off tonight. >> reporter: finally the blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president ratcheted up the lesh on john boehner. >> no one wants to have this done more than me. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business ow
be wise to look beyond the fiscal cliff because all the fears it's tomorrow doing the economy are misplaced. >> most economists have said if we go into 2013 without a deal we'll go into recession. >> we might have into 2013 for three days or knife days or a week before there's a deal. that's about it. the pressure from financial markets will be too great so the scenario that you just referred to to, we go over the cliff, had and the economy sinks. i want to emphasize that cannot happen. >> let me move on to another topic. timothy geithner has said he's not returning for another four years. your name has been mentioned as a replacement. >> of course they are not going to make any changes during that team during the pennedsy of all of this. the president has lots of good choices for whatever comes next. i very much doubt that i'll be part of that but they are in good shape and they don't have anything to do about this. do youly jack lew would be a good treasury secretary. fiscal issues will continue to be and the for foernt even after after agreement on the cliff and the preside
, the good people, the upcoming fiscal cliff. >> the economy is the car and rich sman a driver. don't give the driver many. they will drive you over a cliff. just common sense. >> eric: not exactly. the only way to save the republic is for us to let the president go off the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up. but mandatory spending cuts get enacted. that seems to be the only way dems will cut a dime. let's save the place for the kids. do you agree? >> greg: i do. >> bob: i think you're crazy. >> greg: funny that bob and i agree but for different reasons. fiscal cliff is a horrible med fore. i means the high grade leftism. what you get are massive cuts in defense. and higher taxes. that means the government expands without improving the one thing that works. so you are feeding obese fat man called the government who still isn't doing any good. what they are doing is blackmailing us. president obama is blackmailing saying if you don't do this, if you don't raise taxes on 2%, this is what will happen. >> eric: can i take issue with that? what if we don't go off the fiscal cliff? we are about sequ
get weird around here. >> interesting outfit. >> my gosh! >> eric: yes, the dreaded fiscal cliff. tax hike, spending cut and sequestion ration, whatever they are. belly flop the economy at once. comfortabling the know that d.c. is on top of it all. alex simpson, former senator and the guy that everyone thinks is a lifeguard at the fiscal pool. ♪ ♪ >> eric: okay, beckel is gangnam style. good to know we're in good hands but get serious, folks. >> any word from karl rove? >> despite what we're telling you, it's over. romney lost. >> i guess it's time i explain, the good people, the upcoming fiscal cliff. >> the economy is the car and rich sman a driver. don't give the driver many. they will drive you over a cliff. just common sense. >> eric: not exactly. the only way to save the republic is for us to let the president go off the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up. but mandatory spending cuts get enacted. that seems to be the only way dems will cut a dime. let's save the place for the kids. do you agree? >> greg: i do. >> bob: i think you're crazy. >> greg: funny that bob and i agree but
's look at the fiscal cliff. >> think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver, he'll drive you over a cliff. >> that's an aside show and this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> never too early for pollsters to start head to 2016. guess who's looking very strong? hillary clinton. a new abc news/washington post poll say they would back hillary clinton. it's helpful no one has run a campaign against clinton for the past four years and also helping her numbers is 68% approve of the job she's done as secretary of state for this country. >>> welcome back to "hardball." we know now that mitt romney blames his loss on obama's gifts. i should put the quote marks around that. the much maligned 47% came out in force. last night paul ryan distanced himself from his running mate's remarks. take a look. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> you know, it's hardly a month and he's g
cliff? are you expecting the economy to go over the fiscal cliff and see these taxes go high hadder and spending cuts take effect? >> my personal view is i'm still optimistic. i think the conversation has been constructive since. do we have a solution on the table yet? no. but i'm optimistic we'll get to a framework. >> why? >> there's been enough dialogue. there's been movement. everyone seems to recognize the problem. everybody realizes there has to be a revenue component, spend component, entitlement reform component. for us, the business community and all the ceos, certainty is the greatest stimulus for us. >> do you support tax rates going higher? >> me personally, as an individual, more importantly the business community, which i'm part of. we support something inclusive. if rates were higher in a videocasset vacuum, i'm not sure we'd be supportive of that. we have to make sure the consumers, those who spends a lot of the dollars, the middle class, are protected in this exercise. >> i guess the question i'm really getting at is, do you get the revenue from tax increases or fro
said the obama administration is now willing to go over the fiscal cliff. moody's chief economist, deutsche bank senior u.s. economist telling us just how much that will hurt the economy and the markets,nd, of course, investors and everyon in this country in today's money lineup, news on the economy brought life to wall street today inspiring some investors, the news an unexpectedncrease in factory orders up for a second straight month, and the biggest gains in productivity in the third quarter in two years. business activity, along with new orders, showing their biggest gains last month since the first quarter. stocks finished off their highs. the do up 83 appointmes at the close. the s&p gaining 2.25, and the nasdaq under the weight and prsure of the biggest stock, apple, dropping 23 points. volume today rising to alst 4%.2 billion shares. app 8 stock, as i said, today, laggerred and immense weight on e ma. that stock fell 6.5%, $37, and concerned about the lack of new products on the horizon, concern increased competition in the market might force apple to cut margins to remain
go off the fiscal cliff. our economy cannot sustain that and it cannot happen. >> when is the sausage done? >> the sausage will get done a couple of hours before christmas eve. they will keep them in the house until very late. they will put something through at the very end. it won't be pretty. it won't be a long-term solution, and my guess is they will put a bandaid long enough to get us to about february where we can have the same discussion when we hit the debt limit ceiling in february and do it all over again. >> debbie, what is your prediction on this? >> i think chip and i agree it will be the end of the year. i have told congressional spouses they should plan on their spouses working between christmas and new year's, and that's what the american people want. they are elected to govern and that's part of the job. >> do you agree with chip that it will be a temporary fix? >> i don't know. >> it will just take us into the new year, or will they do a grand bargain here? >> well, i think you could get a grand bargain, but i think you can't do the kind of detailed work that has got
about the prosepects of the economy going over the fiscal cliff? > > angie, it has been a very interesting trade in this space recently. people look to gold as the safe haven, yet we have seen gold prices come off about 5% over the last couple months. and in fact, yesterday was just touching a major support area, both psychologically and technically, right around that $1,700-an-ounce level. now, you would think that if the gold market, or people trading gold, were really that concerned about the fiscal cliff, that would be the safehaven, and we wouldn't see this major sell- off. but, we are seeing that, and actually if we break through this $1,700 level, the next major area of support is down about another 5%, around $1,620. > so the fact that people are not rushing to gold tells you that there is a chance that maybe things will be ok. > > exactly. > good to have you on the show. that's scott bauer of trading advantage. > > thanks angie. newly-elected massachusettes senator elizabeth warren will reportedly take a seat on the senate banking committee. the huffington post reports
. >> mort? >> the economy is going to be very weak despite the solution on the fiscal cliff. >> ryan is right on the cliff, by the way. i predict the u.s. afghanistan by december 31, 2013. bye-bye.
immediate crisis. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: democrats show no signs of backing off from supporting the president' hard line stance on raising the income tax rate on the rich. >> we democrats realize there has to be two sides to this bargain, but we're not going to go back to what bewy did in 2011. we put both revenues and cuts on the table. >> reporter: but despite the impasse in washington, the director sees promising signs that the economy may be improving. for the fiscal crisis she recommended a balanced solution, spending cuts combined with an increase in tax revenue. el geth corridan, kutv charles. >>> quarter of an inch assembly leaders say there is no plan to end a controversial practice of changing voteds after a bill passes or fails. half of those sworn into the assembly are new to the job and the associated press reports that during the past session assembly members changed their votes more than 5,000 times. the practice does not affect the outcome of a bill, but
to avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the whitehouse has wasted another week. >> speaker boehner and president obama spoke only once this scombeek boehner called the talk unproductive. boehner did not say e, he did not repeat his demand to keep tax cuts for the wealthy in place. the president insists taxing should go up on the top 2% of income earners. nancy pelosi responded to criticism that democrats are to blame for the stale meat. >> boehner says that democrats are slow walking this had but this is the same leader who had the house in session barely a full day of this week. >> if a deal is not reached by the end of this year, automatic tax increases and spending cuts go into effect. >> transportation officials today called for the use of data recorders to help improve drive driver safet . these would record vehicle speed, air bag deployment and whether seatbelts were buckled. they say installing those recorders would help gather valuable information. the agency would like to them see them in
the fiscal cliff, that the economy will see a contraction of a couple of percentage points. where are you on earnings for 2013, what are your expectations? >> maria, look at the s&p numbers, looking for a slow single digit percentage gains. for this period of the fourth quarter looking for gains in telecommunications and financials. i think the critical part, investors ought to be very keen just to weigh in the risk, you know, and the fact they had a very rewarding year in 2012, we were up about 12% on the s&p 500. earnings will be very much held captive by the fact that the uncertainty not only about the fiscal cliff but debt ceiling. >> very quickly, john, we're lose altitude in this market rapidly. what do you make of this, and what are you expecting to close here? >> just shows you how fragile our markets r.one comment out of washington can take profits off the table intraday. we'll hold on to our gains here. >> thanks, everybody. we appreciate it. where exactly do we stand in these fiscal cliff negotiations in the latest now from our john harwood, on your stomping ground. good to see
the president of slow walking the economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff and says if the president got the tax increase he wants the country would be facing trillion dollar deficits. >> this isn't a progress report because there is in progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. >>reporter: he calls officials saying they are ready to go over the trip. >>shepard: democrats insist that revenue, revenue, revenue is the key. >>guest: president obama campaigned on it and obviously won and democrats insist upper income americans should pay higher taxes but there could be room to negotiate but their point is they don't want to talk about other aspects of a deal until the g.o.p. gives in on their demand for more tax money. >> what is lacking are the revenues. we cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what reduces the deficit are jobs. job creation. after spending cuts, and medicare saving, and next is the revenue. >>reporter: leader pelosi spent time at the white house today meeting with president obama on wh
a deal on the fiscal cliff, or that they drag it out over a number of months. and that that really erodes confidence. >> repoer: against that backdrop, the federal reserve is trying to do all it can to help the economy. the central bank is widely expected to announce an extension of its bond buying program when it meets next week. erika miller, "n.b.r.," new york. >> tom: with the fiscal cliff about three weeks away, washington hasn't made much progress to avoid it. that was the assessment from one of those directly involved: house speaker john boehner. the top republican today accused president obama of, "slow walking", the economy to the edge of the cliff. he repeated his call for the president to send congress a plan that can pass both houses of congress. tax rates are the major sticking point. the president wants to raise them for america's highest earners, house republicans strongly oppose: >> instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue
the fact that the fed is stepping on the gas, and, depending on what happens with the fiscal cliff and of course the economy next year, i think the dollar is going to drift a little bit weaker. nothing dramatic, but i think it will drift a little weaker as the year progresses. > thanks tim. have a good trading day. > > thanks. just in time for the holidays, hostess brands' layoff of more than 18,000 employees is part of a bulge in end-of-the-year layoffs this year. job cuts are up for the third straight month, and our cover story looks at whether this is a trend that may continue in the new year. job cuts nationwide were up for the third consecutive month in november. november would have been lower, but hostess brands' 18,500 layoffs as a part of bankruptcy pushed the number higher. "it's not a reflection of the strength of the economy as a whole." since january, the number of announced layoffs is actually 13% lower than it was in 2011. that's despite a dreadful january and february that saw more than 50,000 layoffs at american airlines, pepsico, j.c. penney, metlife and procter an
an affect on the economy, even though we have not even reached the point of the fiscal cliff, potentially kicking in, it is already affecting business investment and hiring decisions by creating uncertainty and pessimism, we see what happens to consumer sentiment which fell because of concerns about the fiscal cliff. this is a major risk factor and major source of uncertainty about the economy going forward. i would suspect, although the participants don't make this explicit, but what they are sitting in their projections is the fiscal cliff gets resolved and some intermediate way, there's still fiscal drag not flags by the entire fiscal cliff so that is the underlying assumption that most people took when they made their projections but you are absolutely right that they're a lot of uncertainty right now and the fiscal cliff situation to be resolved in a way different from expectations you would see changes in the forecast. [inaudible] >> thanks very much, mr. chairman. could you talk about whether the decision to maintain the purchase of $85 billion a month represents are ramping up of
tonight, the simpson's mr. burns gives usña rich man' look at the fiscal cliff. >> think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver, he'll drive you over a cliff. >> that's an aside show and this is "hardball," the place for politics. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> never too early for pollsters to start head to 2016. guess who's looking very strong? hillary clinton. aç new abc news/washington pos poll say they would back hillary clinton. it's helpful no one has run a campaign against clinton for the past four years and also helping her numbers is 68% approve of theon she's done as secretary of state for this cou
tonight, the simpson's mr. burns gives us a rich man's look at the fiscal cliff. >> think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver, he'll drive you over a cliff. >> that's an aside show and this is "hardball," the place for politics. you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> never too early for pollsters to start head to 2016. guess who's looking very strong? hillary clinton. a new abc news/washington post po
to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the president is not being a helpful negotiator, even though the president apparently designed the negotiating sessions at boehner's request. according to "the new york times," boehner insisted the talks include only himself and the president of the united states. boehner wanted senate democrats and nancy pelosi out of the discussions. democratic senator dick durbin told the times this is now the speaker and the president working this through. democratic leaders say they are satisfied with the briefings that they continue to receive. nancy pelosi seems perfectly happy putting pressure on the republicans. >> why are w
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to understand given how much going over the fiscal cliff would hurt the economy. why is going over the fiscal cliff worth it for just this one component? if you can get the other components, why wouldn't you take that? >> good question. thanks for asking. what we're trying to do is put in place a comprehensive balance set of fiscal reforms that put us back on the path to living within our means and create room for investing to make the economy stronger, make sure we're protecting medicare for future generations, and forcing the government to use the taxpayers' resources more wisely. in that context, you have to have a significant amount of revenues. we don't see a way of doing it that makes any sense or has any political viability without rates going up as part of that deal. again, the size of the problem in some sense is so large it can't be solved without rates going up. i think there's a broad recognition of that reality now. if you listen carefully to the talk not just in this town, but you hear what businesses and investors say, i think there's broad recognition that rates are going to g
of the fiscal cliff instead of engaging in serious talks to avert the cliff, that includes spending cuts and tax reforms the president once supported. the white house has only offered a joke. i understand we have speaker boehner to the microphones. let's take a listen. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts. and an indefinite, infinite increase on the debt limit, like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal, based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the cliff. instead of cutting spending, the president want to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would c
in sight for the fiscal cliff hanger. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another wee>> why speaker says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> the feds are borrowing nearly a billion dollars a day. so why is the white house saying reducing our debt not really the goal? >> thank you, eric, it's the most watched video on the internet of all time. he is set to perform for the president. gangnam style said about our soldiers a few years ago. that controversy kicking up this morning. "fox & friends" hour one begins right now. >> get out the coffee. wake up, everyone, thank you so much for waking up with tus, it is "fox & friends" on this saturday morning. dave bowling in for dave briggs. >> come in and do the show with us today. more filling in today than the regulars. we are glad to be on with you clayton. >> you are on an interesting morning because congress now just 23 days left, 23 days until we head off that flif. fiscal cliff. if you listened to speaker boehner yesterday he is reading reports th
was an empty letter. >> when it comes to fiscal cliff that's threat nick our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> tax cuts is what caused the fall of the united states from super power status. >> this president just won a big election and you would think that he would want to lead. >> we've had the election. the president was clear in the campaign that he was advocating and fighting for the middle income tax cuts. >> tax cuts. the whole premise of tax cuts is going to be blamed for all of this economic mess. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking, christmas it coming, the goose is getting fat. in many homes across america, it's a very, very lean time. >> the reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> greta: with us is co-host of the five, greg gutfeld. he has a new book out, the joy of hate. he's been on a road trip having a book tour, so he has been talking to lots of people and they have been talking to him. so we want to know. are americans frus
to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> we've had time. the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible, specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> meanwhile, vice president biden is having lunch with several middle class americans who would see their income taxes go up if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. good friday afternoon to you. >> thank you. >> john boehner said today that democrats' plan is to, quote, slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. how do you respond it to that? >> well, that's just utterly preposterous. the republicans right now in the house of representatives have a bill that would ext
have had otherwise. just imagine that. the fiscal cliff is going cost the economy in that order of magnitude, 3 million jobs. we should not, not, not go over that cliff. now -- >> by the same token, though, his point about -- and i don't want to make this about ed. the fact remains that the debt levels we have in this country in effect put a cap on growth right now. >> sure, sure, sure. i think that economists have been saying for years -- i have said repeatedly, economists on both sides of the aisle have said repeatedly what we need is a long-term plan for deficit reduction that begins to take effect when the economy is closer to its capacity. right now it's at least 6% below its capacity. the unemployment rate, 7.7, it should be like 5.7 at capacity. we should not be doing a lot of deficit reduction right now. we want to sends a credible message to markets that we're serious about deficit reduction, but to put it in place in that brutal way, $600 billion next year, forget it. that's not good economics. >> there is a school of thought that says that we just have to get used to
. but democratic leader nancy pelosi says the problem goes beyond the fiscal cliff debate. >> our economy is moving forward, but it could be growing at a faster rate. the republican leadership had taken up and passed some of president obama's job initiatives including the american jobs act and had passed the middle income tax cut. >> so let's cut to the chase. one of those congressional members is lying. either the republicans are right on cutting taxes on small business also add jobs, or the president's stimulus policies are fuelling the economic recovery in this country. joining me tonight to sort out the facts, david cay johnston, pulitzer prize winning journalist and author of "the fine print. let's start with the job growth. unemployment hit rock bottom near the beginning of the -- under the bush administration. you can see this right here. and this of course the changing the color here is when president obama took over in january of '09. who is responsible for this turnaround? >> absolutely the president. and it would be a better turnaround if the republicans had allowed a bigger stimulus. we
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or may not go over the fiscal cliff but regardless the economy has stalled and taxes are going up. i mean there is certainty. it is just not great certainty. >> you know, as a family-owned business after 91 years being in business we know that there's a business cycle. what we need to continue to advocate for as job creators is the virtue of free enterprise. we need to stand up for the principles that are going to allow us to provide our people employment, to create prosperity. we have to do that in a unified way because, even though the forecast can look bleak at different times, we have an incredibly resilient economy. great job create, out there given the chance which make a big difference. that is what we have to continue working on. melissa: jim, aren't you afraid of being punished either by the public or by the government for speaking out at this point? i mean i have talked privately to people on wall street who have said, you know, they feel like get pistol-whipped when they say anything against the administration. that it comes back to bite them. at this point it is better to keep
has already been pointed out. we need to spur this economy and of the fiscal cliff developed and small-businesses our hits we have to have growth somewhere and that could be a way of doing it. >> who of wants to pick this up do we go over the fiscal cliff? >> yes. probably. 55% to 60% and early january they strike some kind of deal that allows the administration to say there decreasing taxes from what they went to in january 1st. i say 60% we are going over the cliff. dave: we are playing with fire if that happens. a lot of people say even if it is temporary it might push us into recession. quickly, you think that is possible that we will? >> certainly possible. interesting the consensus have gone from 50% to 60%. a month or two ago we were not going to go over the cliff. i agree that is completely flipped on its head and the only president in recent memory who headed debt ceiling in summer of 2011, all through july everyone was confident we were going to get a deal and we saw what happened. a little bit of cash on the sidelines to reload the. of the goal of the cliff, is not a bad thi
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